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CMA provides this radio show to help family businesses be better families and family businesses.

Tune in to KMOX 1120 AM “The Business of Family Business” at 3pm on Saturdays to hear some of St. Louis’s top family business leaders tell their stories about running a family business. It’s a great way to learn from the experience of others.

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February 13, 2019- Stephanie Turner and Stacey Acree of Brentwood Travel

Stephanie Turner and Stacey Acree (mother and daughter, G2 and G3, respectively) discuss the founding of this business (1957) by Stephanie’s father and then how her mother stepped in and ran the business. The business is moving to its third female CEO.

February 2, 2019- Kurt and Rachael Schmidt of AE Schmidt

Kurt and Rachael Schmidt (father and daughter, G5 and G6, respectively) describe how this organization was founded in 1849 and how it has navigated the generational transitions as well as fundamental changes in the industry.

January 19, 2019- Mike Kennedy Sr. and Mike Kennedy Jr. of KAI Design & Build

Mike Kennedy Sr. and Jr. describe the almost inadvertent founding of the business, how the business grew, and how Mike Jr., as one of three members of the next generation, entered and then became his father’s successor. The father-son duo also describes how they work together.

January 12, 2019- Special Edition – Lessons Learned

Listen to excerpts from multiple family business stories that discuss the lessons they have learned from running the family business.

January 7, 2019- Schaeffer Marketing Group

Listen to Mike Schaeffer and Kristina Steiger, father and daughter, G1 and G2, discuss Schaeffer Marketing Group and its experience as a manufacturer’s rep. Learn how the business dealt with the departure of a key person, what attracted Kris to the business, and her succession to her father.

December 29, 2018- Special Edition – Overcoming Hardships

Listen to excerpts from multiple family business owners who describe hardships experienced by the family business and how each owner dealt with his/her hardships.

December 18, 2018- Steve and Martin Lipic of Lipic’s Engagement

Steve Lipic, fourth generation CEO of Lipic’s Engagement, and his father, Martin, describe this family business that began in 1863. Listen to the pivots of the business over the past 150+ years and the story of the generational transitions.

December 16, 2018- Special Edition – Adapting to Change

This episode highlights the challenges of adapting to a changing industry via excerpts from multiple family business stories.

December 8, 2018- Special Edition – Retirement and Transitions

This episode highlights different types of transitions in leadership via excerpts from multiple family business stories.

December 1, 2018- Special Edition – Lessons Learned

This episode highlights lessons learned via excerpts from multiple family business stories.

November 10, 2018- Steve, Mike, and Chris Schulte of Henges Interiors

Listen to Steve, Mike, and Chris Schulte (father and two sons) of Henges Interiors discuss why Steve purchased the business later in life (spoiler alert: he did this for his sons) and how they have grown and transitioned the business.

October 27, 2018- Kevin and Denise Brauer of Storm Guard

Listen to Kevin and Denise Brauer, owners of Storm Guard, describe each’s family business history and why they chose Storm Guard, a franchise opportunity. Both departed from their family’s family business.

October 20, 2018- Barry and Tim from Spiegelglass Construction

Listen to Barry and Tim Spiegelglass (father and son owners) describe this 100+ year old family business that began with a push cart in downtown St. Louis. You likely have eaten in a facility built by this company!

October 13, 2018- Tracy Hart and Dirk Elsperman from Tarlton

Listen to Tracy Hart and Dirk Elsperman (G3 siblings) discuss how they entered into the family construction business, Tarlton Corporation, and then assumed leadership and ownership (with a third sibling). This company has built many St. Louis facilities.

October 6, 2018- Ed Brock of Johnnie Brocks

Listen to Edwin Brock, CEO of Johnnie Brocks Dungeon Party Warehouse describe how this company broke with its traditional lines of business to become the source for all things Halloween and costumes in St. Louis.

September 29, 2018- Shane Grasser of Grasser Electric

Shane Grasser, CEO and owner of Grasser Electric, explains how his father founded the company in 1975, how he and his father work together, and how he became the sole owner of the company at G2.

September 8, 2018- Tom and Kim Kutis of Kutis Funeral Homes

Listen to Tom and Kim Kutis (father and daughter) of Kutis Funeral Homes describe the long-standing St. Louis business and how it has persisted over the generations.

September 1, 2018- Jamie Richardson of White Castle Part 2

Listen to Jamie Richardson, who married into the family that owns White Castle, describe the history of the company, how it builds the brand and a loyal workforce, and how the company has transitioned over the generations. Jamie offers a unique perspective as one who married into the family (Part 2).

August 25, 2018- Jamie Richardson of White Castle Part 1

Listen to Jamie Richardson, who married into the family that owns White Castle, describe the history of the company, how it builds the brand and a loyal workforce, and how the company has transitioned over the generations. Jamie offers a unique perspective as one who married into the family (Part 1).

August 18, 2018- Pat and Ron of the O.K. Hatchery

Listen to Pat and Ron Krieger describe the history of this long-time Kirkwood business fixture. Hear Pat and Ron describe the original business (an egg hatchery) to its current downtown Kirkwood retail business that must be seen to be fully understood.

August 4, 2018- Shane Grasser of Grasser Electric 

Shane Grasser, Generation 2 CEO of Grasser Electric, describes how the stock moved from his father (G1) to his father’s three children (G2), and how Shane purchased the stock from his siblings. Shane’s story is a great success for those who don’t want to complete a college education.

June 30, 2018- Diane Butrus of Diba Imports

Listen to Diane Butrus, CEO if Diba Imports, describe how her father founded the business later in life and how she uniquely entered the business. Also listen to how the business has helped the G2 siblings become closer.

May 12, 2018- Karen O’Connor of O’Connor Insurance

Karen O’Connor, CEO of O’Connor Insurance, describes how she entered the business, was challenged to become her father’s successor, and the surprising leadership transition plan from her father to her, plus the niche served that has helped the business succeed.

February 24, 2018- Kory and Gnatt Miller of Winco Windows

Kory Miller and CEO Gnatt Miller of Winco Windows describe how a son-in-law was in and out of the business until the CEO passed unexpectedly. (Part two of two)

February 17, 2018- Kory and Gnatt Miller of Winco Windows

Kory Miller and CEO Gnatt Miller of Winco Windows describe how a son-in-law was in and out of the business until the CEO passed unexpectedly. (Part one of two)

February 3, 2018- Bill Frisella and Sarah King of Metro Lighting

Bill Frisella and Sarah King of Metro Lighting discuss this family business and the potential future of the business without a family member CEO.

January 27, 2018- Trey and Keith Kriegshauser of Kriegshauser Brothers Funeral Service

Trey and Keith Kriegshauser of Kriegshauser Brothers Funeral Services describe the family’s decades-long experience in the industry, their exit and then the re-entry into the industry in a new and different way by three brothers of one branch of the family tree.

January 20, 2018- Mark Waldman, from Laurie’s Shoes

Mark Waldman, CEO of Laurie’s Shoes, describes the founding, growth and success of this shoe retailer in a very competitive industry. Learn how the family works together and learn the uniqueness of their headquarters facility.

December 2, 2017- Tom and Abby Niebling, from Niebling Auto Repair

Tom and Abby Niebling, father and daughter duo of Niebling Auto Repair, discuss the founding of this business in the 1890s as a wagon canopy finisher and its evolution to an automotive repair business today, including the spinoff of its body repair business.

November 26, 2017- Bob McArthur, from Johnny Macs

Bob McArthur, President and CEO of Johnny Mac’s Sporting Goods, talks about changes in ownership, the role of President/CEO and changes in the business. Johnny Mac’s is an iconic brand for St. Louis area youth involved in sports.

November 18, 2017-  Don Eisenberg and Jessica Phillips, from The Exercise Coach in St. Louis, Part Two

Don Eisenberg and Jessica Phillips of The Exercise Coach in St. Louis, father and daughter, continue their story (Episode 2).

November 11, 2017- Don Eisenberg and Jessica Phillips, from The Exercise Coach in St. Louis, Part One

Don Eisenberg and Jessica Phillips of The Exercise Coach in St. Louis, father and daughter, describe their experience in the family’s legacy business and how/why they started their own new family business (Episode 1).

November 4, 2017- Gary Jaffe, from St. Louis-based GL group, parent company of Booksource

Gary Jaffe, President of St. Louis-based GL group, parent company of Booksource, describes how the family has managed differing interests among the siblings at his generation and how the business has grown and thrived after his father purchased the business.

October 28, 2017- Brad Sowers, from Jim Butler Chevrolet

Brad Sowers, CEO of Jim Butler Chevrolet and a G3 son-in-law, describes how he came to be the CEO of the business and how he has built the company into a St. Louis powerhouse.

October 21, 2017- Thomas Wall, from Mitchell Wall Architecture

Thomas Wall, CEO of Mitchell Wall Architecture, describes how he was pulled back to the family business and how the business survived and then thrived after the passing of his father.

October 14, 2017- Chuck and Keith Poettker, from Poettker Construction

Chuck and Keith Poettker of Poettker Construction, father/founder and son/President, discuss how all four members of G2 came into the business and how they have worked together to build and grow the business.

October 7, 2017- Rich Gau, from John Henry Foster Company

Rich Gau, President and CEO of the John Henry Foster Company, the largest, full-service pneumatic and hydraulic equipment distributor in the Midwest, discusses the generational transition of John Henry Foster and the creation of an ESOP by his father.

September 23, 2017 – Tom Thiel, from Chesterfield Fence & Deck

Tom Theil describes how he, as a son-in-law, became the leader of the business at G2 and how the business coped with the flood of 1993.

September 9, 2017 – Jim and Ed Wulkopf, from Beckner Painting & Contracting

Ed and Jim (G1 and G2 respectively) discuss the generational transition where there are two lines of business and two siblings in the next generation.

August 26, 2017 – Justin Woodard, from Woodard Cleaning and Restoration Services

Justin talks about his experiences taking over the family business on short notice.

August 12, 2017 – Tom Phillips, from Weekends Only Furniture Outlet, Part Two

Tom Phillips describes how he and his brothers reconciled their differences after directly competing against each other for several years. Duck blinds and shotguns might be involved!

August 5, 2017 – Tom Phillips from Weekends Only Furniture Outlet, Part One 

Tom Phillips, of Weekends Only Furniture Outlet, describes the history of the family business across three generations and the split that happened in G3 when two brothers competed directly with two other brothers.

July 25, 2017 – Jason Shupp, from Ferguson Roofing

Jason Shupp describes how the family business moved to his father, a son-in-law of the founder, and then to Jason and his brother. The difficult roles for Jason and his brother are key, as is the role of a board in the generational transition.

July 11, 2017 – Walter Knoll, from Walter Knoll Florist

Walter Knoll describes the founding of the business in 1883 and traces its evolution to G5, which currently leads the business. Walter also describes how his business is growing in a shrinking industry.